"My point is that Nazi's are just more "present" in US culture than Communists or tankies. "
Yeah, in popular media maybe. How many Nazis do you know in real life? While the tankies stand there with their red t-shirts and picket signs, without anywhere near that kind of (deserved) aggressive criticism.
"I mean seriously, when was the last time a Tankie ran for US state governor and almost won? "
I have no idea, they don't report when that happens. They do report when it happens with a Nazi. See the problem?
I tried not to associate with the Nazi's that I encountered. So I didn't "know" them.
But I encountered plenty of Nazi's. Plenty of them at every punk show I went to. Occasionally show up at house parties. My friend had his nose rearranged (required lots of surgery) by a Nazi because he said something about the racist rhetoric he was going off on. I didn't need the media to report on the Neo-Nazi that ran for governor because I lived in the state and it was mind blowing they almost won. As in, they were a front runner in the runoff for a while.
This in multiple cities and states. Not as if I was just in a tiny hot spot.
And I'm just counting actual Neo Nazis. Not even white nationalists or white supremacists (the old definition...as in "white people are genetically and culturally superior", not the new I'm not even sure what it means definition). Or confederate flag waving generic racists.
And while you might say "well, you just hung out where nazis' were." I would disagree. I also frequented many of the areas you'd expect tankies to be. Academic circles, open mic beatnik style coffee shops. Radical environmentalist circles (direct action, yada yada). Engaged with literal Communist student and activist groups.
If you're in certain scenes, like punk, Nazis are something you actually have to be aware of. Like gangs if you're into underground hip hop. You have to tread carefully when they're around. Tankies? Except for a couple of vague memories of solo weird guys with Che shirts, it seriously just wasn't a thing at any venue I can recall.
"Can you recall another one? A smaller one?"
Smaller ones are pretty frequent. When I was in LA they happened semi-regularly. I'd say once or twice a year. Generally you'd hear of them by word of mouth "hey, avoid XXX street today. Probably terrible traffic, some nazi rally or something". They're totally outnumbered by counter protester usually.
But I never had to reroute my commute or plans due to Tankie protestors.
Can you name any tankie rallies? A large one? Small ones? I'd assume they'd at a minimum be locally reported if they disrupt traffic or murder a couple of people.
I don't understand your point; when was the last time Nazis marched en masse either?
Charlottesville is the largest I can recall in the last few years. Given....it was a coalition between Nazi, Klan, and white nationalist groups.
My point is that Nazi's are just more "present" in US culture than Communists or tankies.
I mean seriously, when was the last time a Tankie ran for US state governor and almost won? Neo-Nazi's have in my living memory.
Can you recall another one? A smaller one?
"My point is that Nazi's are just more "present" in US culture than Communists or tankies. "
Yeah, in popular media maybe. How many Nazis do you know in real life? While the tankies stand there with their red t-shirts and picket signs, without anywhere near that kind of (deserved) aggressive criticism.
"I mean seriously, when was the last time a Tankie ran for US state governor and almost won? "
I have no idea, they don't report when that happens. They do report when it happens with a Nazi. See the problem?
I tried not to associate with the Nazi's that I encountered. So I didn't "know" them.
But I encountered plenty of Nazi's. Plenty of them at every punk show I went to. Occasionally show up at house parties. My friend had his nose rearranged (required lots of surgery) by a Nazi because he said something about the racist rhetoric he was going off on. I didn't need the media to report on the Neo-Nazi that ran for governor because I lived in the state and it was mind blowing they almost won. As in, they were a front runner in the runoff for a while.
This in multiple cities and states. Not as if I was just in a tiny hot spot.
And I'm just counting actual Neo Nazis. Not even white nationalists or white supremacists (the old definition...as in "white people are genetically and culturally superior", not the new I'm not even sure what it means definition). Or confederate flag waving generic racists.
And while you might say "well, you just hung out where nazis' were." I would disagree. I also frequented many of the areas you'd expect tankies to be. Academic circles, open mic beatnik style coffee shops. Radical environmentalist circles (direct action, yada yada). Engaged with literal Communist student and activist groups.
If you're in certain scenes, like punk, Nazis are something you actually have to be aware of. Like gangs if you're into underground hip hop. You have to tread carefully when they're around. Tankies? Except for a couple of vague memories of solo weird guys with Che shirts, it seriously just wasn't a thing at any venue I can recall.
"Can you recall another one? A smaller one?"
Smaller ones are pretty frequent. When I was in LA they happened semi-regularly. I'd say once or twice a year. Generally you'd hear of them by word of mouth "hey, avoid XXX street today. Probably terrible traffic, some nazi rally or something". They're totally outnumbered by counter protester usually.
But I never had to reroute my commute or plans due to Tankie protestors.
Can you name any tankie rallies? A large one? Small ones? I'd assume they'd at a minimum be locally reported if they disrupt traffic or murder a couple of people.