While I'm not jarred by hearing James referred to as she, it is striking that James is a "she" but a detrans woman is "this person." Why this choice of whose identity to honor? Is it because Jesse thinks that James will sue, stalk, and behave in an assaultive manner?
While I'm not jarred by hearing James referred to as she, it is striking that James is a "she" but a detrans woman is "this person." Why this choice of whose identity to honor? Is it because Jesse thinks that James will sue, stalk, and behave in an assaultive manner?
Yeah, when I don't know someone's preferred pronoun (and I am in a context in which there is a reasonable possibility someone is trans/nonbinary) I will use "they" or "this person."
i have been listening from near this podcastтАЩs inception. their position has always been a pragmatic one, where using proper pronouns is primarily done because it doesnтАЩt give detractors a simple way to dismiss their work.
iтАЩm not a fan of denying reality and donтАЩt do so myself, but i 100% understand why a bit of tact is needed here to introduce normies to controversial ideas. most people arenтАЩt sure what is truly hateful anymore, so they listen for keywords.
In my comment, I was trying to allude to the fact that Jesse, like everyone, makes mistakes. There's an example early in the episode, when Jesse uses "this person" several times to refer to a detrans woman, whose pronouns he knows or can quickly find (she is a public speaker and activist in gender issues). You see, with many people you can afford to make a mistake.
Andrea James is not one such person, going by the episode content. The contrast is striking in how carefully and delicately her pronouns and identity are addressed. Jesse, in his article, didn't even state that James is transgender. I think he was so concerned with not seeming to focus on her trans status, he erred in the other direction.
My comment is a remark on how striking I find the contrast in this instance. It speaks to Andrea James' character that so much caution is observed around her.
In the larger picture, the example of why and how people deal with Andrea James' pronouns (and her putative femaleness) speaks to the character of transgender activism. Precepts of gender ideology are observed often out of caution and strategy, rather than respect or acceptance.
Proponents of gender ideology might be standing on a thin crust over a long fall, rather than on top of any substantial glass (or cotton) ceiling.
While I'm not jarred by hearing James referred to as she, it is striking that James is a "she" but a detrans woman is "this person." Why this choice of whose identity to honor? Is it because Jesse thinks that James will sue, stalk, and behave in an assaultive manner?
Maybe he didn't know the person's preferred pronoun?
Yeah, when I don't know someone's preferred pronoun (and I am in a context in which there is a reasonable possibility someone is trans/nonbinary) I will use "they" or "this person."
i have been listening from near this podcastтАЩs inception. their position has always been a pragmatic one, where using proper pronouns is primarily done because it doesnтАЩt give detractors a simple way to dismiss their work.
iтАЩm not a fan of denying reality and donтАЩt do so myself, but i 100% understand why a bit of tact is needed here to introduce normies to controversial ideas. most people arenтАЩt sure what is truly hateful anymore, so they listen for keywords.
In my comment, I was trying to allude to the fact that Jesse, like everyone, makes mistakes. There's an example early in the episode, when Jesse uses "this person" several times to refer to a detrans woman, whose pronouns he knows or can quickly find (she is a public speaker and activist in gender issues). You see, with many people you can afford to make a mistake.
Andrea James is not one such person, going by the episode content. The contrast is striking in how carefully and delicately her pronouns and identity are addressed. Jesse, in his article, didn't even state that James is transgender. I think he was so concerned with not seeming to focus on her trans status, he erred in the other direction.
My comment is a remark on how striking I find the contrast in this instance. It speaks to Andrea James' character that so much caution is observed around her.
In the larger picture, the example of why and how people deal with Andrea James' pronouns (and her putative femaleness) speaks to the character of transgender activism. Precepts of gender ideology are observed often out of caution and strategy, rather than respect or acceptance.
Proponents of gender ideology might be standing on a thin crust over a long fall, rather than on top of any substantial glass (or cotton) ceiling.