It’s a fact these are trans women, who are definitionally males, and which was abundantly clear in the story. “She” pronouns are typically used for trans women. What facts are being discarded?
It’s a fact these are trans women, who are definitionally males, and which was abundantly clear in the story. “She” pronouns are typically used for trans women. What facts are being discarded?
It's not clear to me if they are all males identifying as women. The person whose parents were murdered, for example, I have seen identified as a man and in another source as a woman.
Do you happen to know if any females are involved in this group?
If not, then why bother to keep up the pretense that these are women when they are seriously disturbed violent men? If there are females involved, then I would argue it's even more important to distinguish among the perpetrators so that the public can be adequately informed.
yeah this is it. for me, i understood that Ziz is a biological male, but as for the other people involved? i was under the impression that there were actual biowomen involved (isn't the person who bought the gun a female?) but i couldn't tell you how many. if they're actually *all* transwomen (ie biomen) then that would surprise me, cuz that's not how i interpreted it.
the problem is that it isn't stated in the story. there needs to be a clear statement at the start of who is who, who was born male, who was born female, etc. we're talking about journalism, and journalism is about reporting the truth. the truth is that Ziz is a biological male, and the fact that he hasn't even gone through any sort of actual medical transition -- meaning he absolutely has every bit of hormones that makes males more aggressive than females flowing through his system -- makes the entire thing even more absurd.
It’s a fact these are trans women, who are definitionally males, and which was abundantly clear in the story. “She” pronouns are typically used for trans women. What facts are being discarded?
It's not clear to me if they are all males identifying as women. The person whose parents were murdered, for example, I have seen identified as a man and in another source as a woman.
Do you happen to know if any females are involved in this group?
If not, then why bother to keep up the pretense that these are women when they are seriously disturbed violent men? If there are females involved, then I would argue it's even more important to distinguish among the perpetrators so that the public can be adequately informed.
yeah this is it. for me, i understood that Ziz is a biological male, but as for the other people involved? i was under the impression that there were actual biowomen involved (isn't the person who bought the gun a female?) but i couldn't tell you how many. if they're actually *all* transwomen (ie biomen) then that would surprise me, cuz that's not how i interpreted it.
the problem is that it isn't stated in the story. there needs to be a clear statement at the start of who is who, who was born male, who was born female, etc. we're talking about journalism, and journalism is about reporting the truth. the truth is that Ziz is a biological male, and the fact that he hasn't even gone through any sort of actual medical transition -- meaning he absolutely has every bit of hormones that makes males more aggressive than females flowing through his system -- makes the entire thing even more absurd.
"typically" since when?
Well, certainly longer than I’ve been alive anyway.
I’m still confused about who in the story is biologically male and who is actually female.
BARPOD should definitely clarify this in an update.