> Despite the meetup being voluntary, masked, and outdoors, two other admins from the area, a nonbinary furry who goes by Scout Pawfoot and a trans woman who goes by Silverbeak (herself a longtime friend of Teskine), pulled the two into a chat group with other local meetup admins to press them to cancel their meetup…
> Despite the meetup being voluntary, masked, and outdoors, two other admins from the area, a nonbinary furry who goes by Scout Pawfoot and a trans woman who goes by Silverbeak (herself a longtime friend of Teskine), pulled the two into a chat group with other local meetup admins to press them to cancel their meetup. According to Renn, people in the group claimed they would be murdering people by hosting it, and called Renn and Skaard Nazis.
If you don't think it's safe to attend an event, then wouldn't the rathional response be to simply "not go?" Perhaps state the concern for safety on the forum if you're really concerned? And that's it!
This sounds insane.
I also have a problem with calling people Nazis -- even dispicable people -- who aren't Nazis. "Nazi" should mean a specific things. Israelis who are under constant existential threat from their neighbors don't call them Nazis. (I spend about 4 months/year in Israel and have never heard the word Nazi used to refer to anyone other than the Germans and perhaps a few modern European and American groups who directly borrow their doctrines and symbology.)
Why do people feel the need stop events that they don't want to attend? I wouldn't go to a furry meet because I'm not a furry, but I don't care if people who are furries want to get together and do whatever it is that they do.
If I feel an event is unsafe... I don't go. I may warn a friend away from something, but random (adult) strangers it's up to them. You want to swim through the Everglades in Lady Gaga's meat suit? Not my problem. During the first wave of Covid, you want to go around a hospital shaking hands and hugging people (looking at you BoJo) - fine. Just don't be all surprised Pikachu when it goes tits up. I think we could use a bit more chlorine in the gene pool.
There absolutely is a societal interest in preventing or deterring other people from doing dumb shit when it comes to trying to contain the spread of a contagious disease. "This event was safe" is a valid observation; "you shouldn't care about people holding unsafe events, just don't go" is not.
I got lost right here:
> Despite the meetup being voluntary, masked, and outdoors, two other admins from the area, a nonbinary furry who goes by Scout Pawfoot and a trans woman who goes by Silverbeak (herself a longtime friend of Teskine), pulled the two into a chat group with other local meetup admins to press them to cancel their meetup. According to Renn, people in the group claimed they would be murdering people by hosting it, and called Renn and Skaard Nazis.
If you don't think it's safe to attend an event, then wouldn't the rathional response be to simply "not go?" Perhaps state the concern for safety on the forum if you're really concerned? And that's it!
This sounds insane.
I also have a problem with calling people Nazis -- even dispicable people -- who aren't Nazis. "Nazi" should mean a specific things. Israelis who are under constant existential threat from their neighbors don't call them Nazis. (I spend about 4 months/year in Israel and have never heard the word Nazi used to refer to anyone other than the Germans and perhaps a few modern European and American groups who directly borrow their doctrines and symbology.)
Why do people feel the need stop events that they don't want to attend? I wouldn't go to a furry meet because I'm not a furry, but I don't care if people who are furries want to get together and do whatever it is that they do.
If I feel an event is unsafe... I don't go. I may warn a friend away from something, but random (adult) strangers it's up to them. You want to swim through the Everglades in Lady Gaga's meat suit? Not my problem. During the first wave of Covid, you want to go around a hospital shaking hands and hugging people (looking at you BoJo) - fine. Just don't be all surprised Pikachu when it goes tits up. I think we could use a bit more chlorine in the gene pool.
There absolutely is a societal interest in preventing or deterring other people from doing dumb shit when it comes to trying to contain the spread of a contagious disease. "This event was safe" is a valid observation; "you shouldn't care about people holding unsafe events, just don't go" is not.